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spike
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| Well, on I go...Im sincere in hoping you all a great weekend-and happiness in all you do. L8R. |
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Brant
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Spike, you either believe or you don't. A person can't will himself to believe what he doesn't. It would be like me willing myself to be Asian. I can try all I want, but it ain't going to happen. Bus, I'm not sure what dinosaur conversation you're referring to. It all starts to blend together after a while. 
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busdriver
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| spike wrote: | | Me?, I have not had a beer in a few months-and when I do, its at home as well. So, your wife beats you-or your boy, whatever.Anyway, yeah, I aint for gay marriage--no big deal to me-at all.Hey, another blessing is that I have a beautiful woman who Ive been with and married to for goin on 23 years.Its all good. You know Brant, if you would give yourself the chance to see whats right about believing, and give it a for real go, you would be better able to make a choice that has some meaning to it. I mean, with all the things to argue against in the world---be a champion for a cause that needs an arguer....hum,arguer? You know? You really put so much effort in trying to be of opinion against it--it doesnt take even half a much effort to succeed in a belief. Try it, you might find things becoming so good in your life-(and we all could use that),that you stay anchored. |
Spike, not a good idea to recruit unless you are in the business and it is your job. If a person has certain convictions, it is good they also have the courage of those convictions and choose what they feel is right for them to do/not do. |
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busdriver
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Brant wrote: | | Spike, you either believe or you don't. A person can't will himself to believe what he doesn't. It would be like me willing myself to be Asian. I can try all I want, but it ain't going to happen. Bus, I'm not sure what dinosaur conversation you're referring to. It all starts to blend together after a while. |
It was a while back and about evolution and such, CY, would know, but he has to be in DC this week-end to report phoney and the rest to the administration, ( they don't use E-mail no more because of all that mess Bush/Cheney, Rove etc caused cause the azzes don't know what "DELETE" means), so I guess if the O/R isn't surrounded with Crime Scene Tape if Home Land Insecurity doesn't come and confiscate all of your Forum Posts and home addresses of posters, I can ask him Monday. |
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freethinker
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Sorry, spike old boy...I tried to help, but Those cowardly humanists wouldn't fight with me...
....Run Away, run away, run away..
They think they don't need God. All they care about is freedom of love and individuality and toking on the pot
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OndinitaAKALibchit
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| spike wrote: | | No, its not about the works of a person.That wont get ya to Heaven. |
You don't know how much it irks me to hear Christians say that. Yes, it IS about the works of a person. FAITH doesn't get you to Heaven. That's crap that Christians that don't want to be held accountable for their actions made up.
"You will know them by their fruits." --Matthew 7:17
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spike
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| Your obviously in no position to remark on the issue. Youve mis-understood its meaning. Go figure. Who the hell are you anyway? |
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OndinitaAKALibchit
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| spike wrote: | | Your obviously in no position to remark on the issue. Youve mis-understood its meaning. Go figure. Who the hell are you anyway? |
Why am I in no position to remark on the issue? Why don't you explain the meaning then? Why does it matter who I am?
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freethinker
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Spike, she's probly one of their FRUITS, if you know what I mean... Hang in there. Don't let them change you
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OndinitaAKALibchit
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| freethinker wrote: | | Spike, she's probly one of their FRUITS, if you know what I mean... Hang in there. Don't let them change you |
I'm very fruity!
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I'm scrumpdillyishus!
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Well, Lilith, i won't even respond to that. You're beneath me.
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OndinitaAKALibchit
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Amphikalein
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spike, you sure seem to get bent out of shape too easily.
The arguably orthodox position is that Christians are "saved by grace" and "justified by faith". In other words, salvation is God's gift, but it requires some faith to accept that gift. Good works are supposed to be the byproduct of salvation and an active faith. Humans can't earn their salvation - that's an old heresy called Pelagianism.
And there are many Christians who do not believe that homosexuality is a sin, and base that belief on Biblical foundations. Since i've detailed that many times before in the OR forum, i'm not inclined to repeat myself.
Besides, the folks who are convinced that homosexuality is a sin aren't likely to acknowledge that i and the many others who share my belief could be right. i suspect when (and if) they do get to heaven, God's gonna greet them in the appearance of a big, butch, dyke of color. Probably just to see the look on their faces.
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spike
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| Well at least you spelled out how that other poster was wrong in the fruit thing. Yep, youve got it right Amph. We met based on this issue. I will say again,I am not in support of your lifestyle Amph, but if you were hurting or in need of help in any way-Im gonna be there if possible. Thats where I stand. And,if I do get to see God, I wont care what He looks like-Ill be in an indescribeable place. I hope I see you there too. |
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