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Petition--We want significant HCR with a public option!

 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Petition--We want significant HCR with a public option! Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is the WE ONDI ? The last i checked around 65% of the WE want to start over. BB
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BB---the polls have also found that many of those people that say that they want Congress to start over, believe that the current bill doesn't go far enough to reform healthcare & do want a public option.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of polls that show the public does not want the current bill, just like there are polls that show support for the public option as high as 70%. I am aware of no poll that even asked if congress should start from scratch, but I could be mistaken about that. Post a link to the poll you are talking about.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of the public option but its not part of the current bill is it? I also think the current bill as it stands is really weak, and insures what 30 million more which is not everyone.BB
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im wrong C there is no poll i was thinking of the poll the states around 65% dont like the current bill..BB
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like the idea of the public option but its not part of the current bill is it? I also think the current bill as it stands is really weak, and insures what 30 million more which is not everyone.BB


That's right! The House bill includes the public option. But the Senate's doesn't...I read somewhere that 10-15 million people would remain uninsured. But I guess that's a big improvement from 45 million uninsured!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like the idea of the public option but its not part of the current bill is it? I also think the current bill as it stands is really weak, and insures what 30 million more which is not everyone.BB


Its part of the house bill. The senate bill is the one that polls so low, and it should. I was thinking about it, and the structure of our congress is a perfect metaphor for everything that is wrong with our society. You have two houses. The lower one is filled with representatives calculated to a total that should accurately represent the population who elected them. Seems fair. And the house tends to get things done easier and their decisions normally reflect the feelings of the public more closely (I'm not saying they do exactly, but they are normally much closer). The Senate has representation that is deadlocked at 2 per state, so your wealthy low population states and your rural mid-American states get as much say as your ten times more populous coastal states. How is that fair? My solution is the Senate should be abolished altogether and the House of Representatives should compose the entire legislative branch on its own.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to conduct a poll to see how many people want to do away with polls!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am going to conduct a poll to see how many people want to do away with polls!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very clever, Phony, but a bit "blue" for the forum. Wink
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Very clever, Phony, but a bit "blue" for the forum. Wink


I saw the comment & threw up a little bit in my mouth... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Very clever, Phony, but a bit "blue" for the forum. Wink


Well, Brantski, it's a fact of life, and cannot be denied....

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: Public Option Petition Reply with quote

This is a dead issue. It's been dead for at least the past 6-months. Thursday's Healthcare Summit is now the "new page" upon which Congress can build.

Both parties have deeply divided policies and approaches to solve the nations problems. Both parties defended their prescriptions well. Americans benefited from witnessing this democratic healthcare debate. All attendees were civil and constructive. The only divisive moments came when President Obama ridiculed Virgina’s Eric Cantor, cut Senator McCain off after the Senator described the President’s “promised change” as “unsavory deal-making and Mitch McConnel’s winning about which party spoke the longest.

There were some areas of agreement, including
• barring insurers from dropping policyholders who become sick, or run up heavy bills,
• ending annual and lifetime monetary limits on health insurance benefits,
• permitting young adults stay on their parents' health policies until they turn 26,
• making changes in medical malpractice,
• the need for more regulation of insurers,
• the federal government should help individuals and small businesses pool their purchasing power to buy insurance,

Thanks C-Span. More Americans now know that there are irreconcilable differences and there is little hope for compromise on the Democratic Senate bill. The Republicans are deficit hawks and will not agree on any new “entitlement” programs until Medicare and Social Security are reformed. Will both parties now start crafting legislation to tame the beast.
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