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OndinitaAKALibchit Journeyman
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: Petition--We want significant HCR with a public option! |
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http://act.boldprogressives.org/cms/sign/bipartisanship/?source=typ-fb&referring_akid=462.265318.Y9juiV _________________ "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties ... if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal,' then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal.'" ~ Senator John F. Kennedy 9/14/1960
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blackballed Professional
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Who is the WE ONDI ? The last i checked around 65% of the WE want to start over. BB |
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OndinitaAKALibchit Journeyman
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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BB---the polls have also found that many of those people that say that they want Congress to start over, believe that the current bill doesn't go far enough to reform healthcare & do want a public option. _________________ "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties ... if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal,' then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal.'" ~ Senator John F. Kennedy 9/14/1960
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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There are a lot of polls that show the public does not want the current bill, just like there are polls that show support for the public option as high as 70%. I am aware of no poll that even asked if congress should start from scratch, but I could be mistaken about that. Post a link to the poll you are talking about. _________________ The end is nigh! OR forums die APRIL 1. Don't lose contact! Join the forums at bogsource.com now! |
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blackballed Professional
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I like the idea of the public option but its not part of the current bill is it? I also think the current bill as it stands is really weak, and insures what 30 million more which is not everyone.BB |
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blackballed Professional
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Im wrong C there is no poll i was thinking of the poll the states around 65% dont like the current bill..BB |
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OndinitaAKALibchit Journeyman
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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blackballed wrote: | I like the idea of the public option but its not part of the current bill is it? I also think the current bill as it stands is really weak, and insures what 30 million more which is not everyone.BB |
That's right! The House bill includes the public option. But the Senate's doesn't...I read somewhere that 10-15 million people would remain uninsured. But I guess that's a big improvement from 45 million uninsured! _________________ "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties ... if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal,' then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal.'" ~ Senator John F. Kennedy 9/14/1960
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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blackballed wrote: | I like the idea of the public option but its not part of the current bill is it? I also think the current bill as it stands is really weak, and insures what 30 million more which is not everyone.BB |
Its part of the house bill. The senate bill is the one that polls so low, and it should. I was thinking about it, and the structure of our congress is a perfect metaphor for everything that is wrong with our society. You have two houses. The lower one is filled with representatives calculated to a total that should accurately represent the population who elected them. Seems fair. And the house tends to get things done easier and their decisions normally reflect the feelings of the public more closely (I'm not saying they do exactly, but they are normally much closer). The Senate has representation that is deadlocked at 2 per state, so your wealthy low population states and your rural mid-American states get as much say as your ten times more populous coastal states. How is that fair? My solution is the Senate should be abolished altogether and the House of Representatives should compose the entire legislative branch on its own. _________________ The end is nigh! OR forums die APRIL 1. Don't lose contact! Join the forums at bogsource.com now! |
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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I am going to conduct a poll to see how many people want to do away with polls! _________________
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OndinitaAKALibchit Journeyman
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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SSSS wrote: | I am going to conduct a poll to see how many people want to do away with polls! |
_________________ "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties ... if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal,' then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal.'" ~ Senator John F. Kennedy 9/14/1960
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Very clever, Phony, but a bit "blue" for the forum. _________________
The priests of the different religious sects dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight.
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OndinitaAKALibchit Journeyman
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Brant wrote: | Very clever, Phony, but a bit "blue" for the forum. |
I saw the comment & threw up a little bit in my mouth... _________________ "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties ... if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal,' then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal.'" ~ Senator John F. Kennedy 9/14/1960
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Brant wrote: | Very clever, Phony, but a bit "blue" for the forum. |
Well, Brantski, it's a fact of life, and cannot be denied.... _________________ Exposing the secular humanist liberal "progressives". |
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: Public Option Petition |
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This is a dead issue. It's been dead for at least the past 6-months. Thursday's Healthcare Summit is now the "new page" upon which Congress can build.
Both parties have deeply divided policies and approaches to solve the nations problems. Both parties defended their prescriptions well. Americans benefited from witnessing this democratic healthcare debate. All attendees were civil and constructive. The only divisive moments came when President Obama ridiculed Virgina’s Eric Cantor, cut Senator McCain off after the Senator described the President’s “promised change” as “unsavory deal-making and Mitch McConnel’s winning about which party spoke the longest.
There were some areas of agreement, including
• barring insurers from dropping policyholders who become sick, or run up heavy bills,
• ending annual and lifetime monetary limits on health insurance benefits,
• permitting young adults stay on their parents' health policies until they turn 26,
• making changes in medical malpractice,
• the need for more regulation of insurers,
• the federal government should help individuals and small businesses pool their purchasing power to buy insurance,
Thanks C-Span. More Americans now know that there are irreconcilable differences and there is little hope for compromise on the Democratic Senate bill. The Republicans are deficit hawks and will not agree on any new “entitlement” programs until Medicare and Social Security are reformed. Will both parties now start crafting legislation to tame the beast. _________________ "Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few". George Bernard Shaw |
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