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| busdriver wrote: | | ellipses wrote: | | That still doesn't make me know who Sal is... |
he is the enforcer, be afraid, very afraid, he is the  boogyman and is coming for your "pot" |
Its nice to be introduced to another one of your characters BD. We've met Bubba, the prision rapist, and now Sal, the enforcer.
Who is else is in that head of yours? Barbie the blond bimbo, Tony the pizza guy, Tyrone the drug dealer?
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| dick wrote: | | busdriver wrote: | | ellipses wrote: | | That still doesn't make me know who Sal is... |
he is the enforcer, be afraid, very afraid, he is the boogyman and is coming for your "pot" |
Its nice to be introduced to another one of your characters BD. We've met Bubba, the prision rapist, and now Sal, the enforcer.
Who is else is in that head of yours? Barbie the blond bimbo, Tony the pizza guy, Tyrone the drug dealer? |
I don't recall "Bubba", but you do know " dick" the "weed ' Whacker" |
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ROFL furreal!
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Well, the issue I'm talking about is making "nonprofits" pay property taxes. Let's stick to the subject.
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busdriver
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| Brant wrote: | | Well, the issue I'm talking about is making "nonprofits" pay property taxes. Let's stick to the subject. |
I'm confused, (not a surprise), but explain "non-profits" again, I know churches etc, , Public Schools, State Schools.
I guess you mean private schools, and I can see your point, but are they classified as "non-profit" for tax purposes? and do they make , or are they allowed to make a profit?
I am guessing that any profits should result in lower tuitions,scholarships, etc. to be qualify as tax exempt. |
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busdriver
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| ellipses wrote: | | ROFL furreal! |
not funny fellow, sal may be more then a figment of my imagination. |
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Bus, I'm just talking about entities such as hospitals, private educational institutions and churches. Those would be my three targets for property taxation or, at the very least, a set system for charging fees in lieu of taxes.
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busdriver
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Brant wrote: | | Bus, I'm just talking about entities such as hospitals, private educational institutions and churches. Those would be my three targets for property taxation or, at the very least, a set system for charging fees in lieu of taxes. |
OK, but if they were to pay taxes, all they would do is to increase the price of their services , churches will not happen any time soon, but as we become more godless as a nation(10-20 years, probably won't be any churches) so that will be a moot issue. |
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I truly believe the college and the hospital are killing Washington by taking so much real property off the tax rolls..
I under stand the whole non-profit thing, but when the hospital buys a house, rents it, and collects rent off it, are they or are they not for profit?
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| Brant wrote: | | So they don't pay a large fee, do they? If our argument now is who should be taxed, I'm all in favor of changing the law to tax the property of churches, schools and hospitals. In my opinion, there should be no exemptions. Some can better afford it than others. But W&J should be able to manage. As I recall, they have an endowment of more than $100 million. |
Rather that charge clooege students who rarely use city services lets tax those who use them the most, the welfare class ( drugies and alcoholoics)and the bars where they all hang out and shoot each other.
I do agree with you problem with college endowments, they are all too large. The state governemt should require that thye spent 25% of the endowments each year or tax that % at a reqular income rate for use at the local level.
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george
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| Brant wrote: | | Well, why don't you outline your plan for bringing businesses back to downtown Washington. If you owned a business, would you locate there? |
Isn't that the job of the mayor and city council along with the Redevelopment Authority that has millions to spend yearly?
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george
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| Brant wrote: | | Good point, Dick, about the colleges tacking on big charges to pad their take. But of course, they just couldn't put a $50 per student municipal services charge on there. Ohhhhh, nooooo. That would scare off prospective students. Yeah, right. |
Where do you get your $50 rate at? the rates I saw ranged from $27 for CCAC, $125 for Pitt, Carlow aDuquesne and Point Park up to $400 for CMU. Since CMU and W& J have similar tuition rates I suspect W&J would be $400 as well. The rest of the people who work in Pisttsburgh, or Washington only pay $52/yr for the same privliage. doesn't seem fair when you compare prices.
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george
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| Brant wrote: | | Look, W&J has taken millions of dollars worth of property off the Washington tax rolls for its benefit. It's a fairness issue. |
So has Washington County. The property W&J has purchased over the last 10 years was mostly run down and had a low tax rate anyway. Remember, some of their property is in East Washington but they aren't bitching. They have maintined property values and can attrach high income residents, unlike Washington.
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George, it's my recollection that W&J was approached by the city and asked to impose a $50 fee on each student to cover municipal services and benefits. The college told them to pound sand.
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