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The truth is if marijuana was legalized, it wouldn't change the every day lives of 90% of the population in any way. To me that's a major litmus test of whether or not something should be illegal. Does creating a freedom infringe on another person's freedom? In the case of violent crimes like rape, murder and robbery, its an obvious yes. In the case of lesser illegalities like drug use, its a no. The question then arises, is it worthwhile to prosecute and punish this crime? You have to balance the cost of prosecution and incarceration against the perceived effect on society. And beyond strictly moral objections, which are always subjective, there is no negative effect on society from private responsible drug use in one's own home. Now if you want to question public drug use or operating motor vehicles under the influence of a substance, that's a whole different argument. But just the possession and ingestion of substances doesn't affect anyone other than the user. This is why people can smoke cigarettes and drink to excess in their own homes legally. Legislating purely moral issues ultimately never works out.
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Weed Gateway
Get weed from drug dealer. Dealer offers weed, oxycontin, perkaset, valium, cocaine, Playstation controllers.
Nicotine Gateway
Get tobacco from gas station attendant. Attendant offers lights, 100s, menthol, snuff, pouches, chewing tobacco, lottery tickets, scratch offs, M & M's.
Caffiene Gateway
Get coffee at coffee shop. Liberal hippie douche offers coffee, expresso, pastries, muffins, Jewel Christmas album.
Moral of the story... weed leads to coke the same way: cigarettes lead to lottery tickets and coffee leads to Jewel Christmas albums.
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OndinitaAKALibchit
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| dick wrote: | Weed Gateway
Get weed from drug dealer. Dealer offers weed, oxycontin, perkaset, valium, cocaine, Playstation controllers.
Nicotine Gateway
Get tobacco from gas station attendant. Attendant offers lights, 100s, menthol, snuff, pouches, chewing tobacco, lottery tickets, scratch offs, M & M's.
Caffiene Gateway
Get coffee at coffee shop. Liberal hippie douche offers coffee, expresso, pastries, muffins, Jewel Christmas album.
Moral of the story... weed leads to coke the same way: cigarettes lead to lottery tickets and coffee leads to Jewel Christmas albums. |
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It gets better:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113924395
"Government Issues Medical Marijuana Guidelines"
| Quote: | Patients prescribed marijuana for medical purposes and their licensed suppliers "will not be a priority" of federal prosecutors in states that have legalized the practice, the Justice Department said Monday.
The guidance from the department came in the form of a three-page memo that directed federal agents to take a hands-off approach to cases in which no state laws are broken.
Prosecutors "should not focus federal resources in your states on individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana," the memo said.
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This is a major libertarian victory. State's rights for the win!
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OndinitaAKALibchit
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I was just going to post that article!!! 
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I suppose thats a start. Too bad I live in Pa, where we're the last state to jump on the progress train.
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| dick wrote: | | I suppose thats a start. Too bad I live in Pa, where we're the last state to jump on the progress train. |
PA can't be worse than GA!! Even Alabama is getting on the medical marijuana train!! 
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Now, if they would only allow "self-prescription"...
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