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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: NYT Iran nukes like Iraq wmds Reply with quote

It looks line the NYT (New York Times) is saying Obama is lying about the Iran nukes. Nah, can't be, only republicans lie, right. But he has British and French intellence, oh yeah so did Bush, right.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonders never cease. george using the New York Times to defend Bush.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you referring to this article?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/world/middleeast/29nuke.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=Iran&st=cse

I guess all there is to this debate is to wait and see if we are bogged down in a war with Iran in 6 years Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ellipses wrote:
Are you referring to this article?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/world/middleeast/29nuke.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=Iran&st=cse

I guess all there is to this debate is to wait and see if we are bogged down in a war with Iran in 6 years Smile


Yea, somehow the thrill of invading yet another country based on bull chit has lost its luster. Did any one seek Cheneys advice about this?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How convenient is this?

If we don't go to war with Iran, Obama is weak.

If we DO go to war with Iran, then Obama is no better than GW.

Of course, we aren't going to go to war with Iran... so, it's kind of a moot point, huh?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ellipses wrote:
How convenient is this?

If we don't go to war with Iran, Obama is weak.

If we DO go to war with Iran, then Obama is no better than GW.

Of course, we aren't going to go to war with Iran... so, it's kind of a moot point, huh?


Or is it yet another diabolical plot to further our posturing for Mid-East oil? dum de dum dum

Fiddly dum fiddly dee,
Do I sense the presence of a Cheney;
We are doomed headed to hell,
If indeed that is Cheney that we smell.

No ideas and no war plan,
good enough for Iraq, good enough for Iran;
and if done with great agression,
might be enough to stop the recession.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wonders never cease. george using the New York Times to defend Bush.


I am not defending anyone. Just saying why is the NYT the only media questioning the information. Where is NBC/CBS/ABC/CNN?
As soon as no wmds were found they all said Bush lied but he had the same sources of info the wmds Obama now has on the nukes including the British.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama isn't saying there are nukes in Iran. Obama is saying there is a nuclear facility there, which Iran has admitted is true. The question is what the facility is for. Iran claims energy. No one else believes that. They are asking Iran to let UN inspectors in to check it out. That's where we stand. No one is claiming WMDs are there. No one is threatening war or invasion yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anybody pressing for a pre-emptive war with Iran? No? Well, then... we can make up stories about them until someone does... when it comes to actually putting boots on the ground, there had better have been an aggressive action first.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beat you this time!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How convenient is this?

If we don't go to war with Iran, Obama is weak.

If we DO go to war with Iran, then Obama is no better than GW.

Of course, we aren't going to go to war with Iran... so, it's kind of a moot point, huh?

So you have inside info on weather or not we go to war now? Or is Obama that weak that you can already tell what he won't do?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang around. I want to see how you handle it when you're proven wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hang around. I want to see how you handle it when you're proven wrong.

How can I possibly be proven wrong when I haven't made a prediction? I just questioned the media fairness (that a democrat issue) when the same sources of information are used to accuse another mid east nation of possessing or developing wmd's.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cylinsier wrote:
Beat you this time!


You must have eaten wheaties this morning Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

george wrote:
How can I possibly be proven wrong when I haven't made a prediction? I just questioned the media fairness (that a democrat issue) when the same sources of information are used to accuse another mid east nation of possessing or developing wmd's.


Sounds to me like you are predicting we will go to war with Iran and that Iran will not have wmds if we go. I don't understand the point of your argument against the NYT. They are a newspaper which shares opinions, not a group of foreign policy experts.
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