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| Cylinsier wrote: | | What's "skezzofrania?" |
where did you see it? |
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| ellipses wrote: | | busdriver wrote: | | ellipses wrote: | He was saying that people would be "forced" into the private option because companies would rather pay the 400 dollar fee and save 12 grand on premiums for employees... and those employees wouldn't be able to afford the premiums of a private plan, so they would opt for the public option.
1. YES! This would be HUGE for my company (26 employees, 5 million in revenue)! Not only would they save almost 12 grand per employee, but I could reasonably ask for a 6000 dollar raise "just because"
2. Hello?! If you can't afford a private plan, and you don't want the public plan, you should either get a part time job or cut back on some luxuries. Nobody is putting a gun to your head and saying take the public option... As george would say, work harder, longer, or cut back to pay for it.
3. If private plans actually ARE unaffordable, that kinda makes the case for a public plan!
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If there is ever to be a health plan for all, , and common sense should tell us all then it will be
a government plan, E, or none at all, as I said, those who can not afford it, we pay for in reduced treatments or higher cost, now you got it? Any thing else is but wishful thinking and that is the bottom line. |
I didn't really understand what you were trying to say there... |
I get all the stuff you have up here e, but the plan you have above and really the whole plan is based on employment, either your own or working for some one.
How many millions does that exclude today who are not working or working but barely getting by? How are they going to buy into the program if they can't even feed themselves?
Even those of you working, how much can you afford to pay for the insurance every month? |
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People who are unemployed would probably be subsidized or their coverage would be part of their unemployment benefits... I haven't heard how that is determined one way or the other... As far as affordability, I am sure that they will have income tables with a corresponding price... I suppose we can determine what the affordability is once they say how much the premiums cost for a person...
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| busdriver wrote: | | Cylinsier wrote: | | What's "skezzofrania?" |
where did you see it? |
I was joking. One of the Senators tried to say schizophrenia and it sounded funny.
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Pat Roberts sounds like he's having multiple strokes.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| ellipses wrote: | | People who are unemployed would probably be subsidized or their coverage would be part of their unemployment benefits... I haven't heard how that is determined one way or the other... As far as affordability, I am sure that they will have income tables with a corresponding price... I suppose we can determine what the affordability is once they say how much the premiums cost for a person... |
This insurance lobby written Bacus plan (media words, not mine) was $13,000 a year in August, any newer figures since? |
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Every bill they have discussed so far is weak.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I am still rolling on the floor-a few pages ago you guys were posting a lot about "crap" then in the middle of it John Kerry's name appears! How very fitting!!!
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| Freudian slip? |
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It was an unrelated comment. We were making fun of Crapo and then Kerry made a good argument for the public option and e gave him accolades.
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| ellipses wrote: | | People who are unemployed would probably be subsidized or their coverage would be part of their unemployment benefits... I haven't heard how that is determined one way or the other... As far as affordability, I am sure that they will have income tables with a corresponding price... I suppose we can determine what the affordability is once they say how much the premiums cost for a person... |
That part(cost) is the one part that always gets mumbled or stuttered or omitted or "to be worked out" when the talking takes place. |
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Kerry said what I was thinking... that's why his name came up
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Record it-it may be the only time in history kerry has had a worthwhile thought.
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Some of the better bills are the ones that clearly lay out how cost will be addressed. HR 676 for example.
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13,000 is the average policy premium, currently... and I believe that the average policy covers something like 2.1 people (could be wrong)...
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