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Phony---are you suggesting that we start WWIII in order to end the economic crisis? 
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| OndinitaAKALibchit wrote: | | Phony---are you suggesting that we start WWIII in order to end the economic crisis? |
No, we have our "messiah", TINGLY LEG OSAMA, who promised us during his campaign "I'll provide the country with millions of new jobs....I'll save millions of jobs"......
Remember?????
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| Brant wrote: | | In large part, Phony is right about the war effort snapping America out of the Great Depression. But the New Deal programs were important in keeping the country afloat until that happened. |
Brant, the F.D.R. "make-work programs" did a lot of good, building post offices, city government buildings, etc., through the W.P.A....the C.C.C. kept a lot of kids off the streets, and the T.V.A. (still alive, today, I believe) did some good, also...
Other than that, the war brought us the great surge in heavy industry, that proved to be the key to prosperity.....
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| freethinker wrote: | "In short, the ideological bankruptcy of socialism will be laid bare by government insolvency."
Three words nim-wit--- China is socialist |
Not communist any longer? |
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China is still communist in my opinion. Socialism is a range, not a state of either yes or no. China is more socialist than we are but still more capitalist than the USSR was or Cuba is.
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busdriver
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| Cylinsier wrote: | | China is still communist in my opinion. Socialism is a range, not a state of either yes or no. China is more socialist than we are but still more capitalist than the USSR was or Cuba is. |
Reading about some of their business practices( today some political dude ripped them off for either 11 or 35 billion bucks, like Our Senate, Wall Street gangsters), Mcdonalds, KFC etc, poor workmanship, crappy products, , hell sounds like a democracy to me. |
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huh? 
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IMO, that's a symptom of capitalism (economic changes) more than it is democracy (political changes). If China were a democracy, the internet wouldn't be three state sponsered web pages and a google that only searches those three pages.
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| Cylinsier wrote: | | IMO, that's a symptom of capitalism (economic changes) more than it is democracy (political changes). If China were a democracy, the internet wouldn't be three state sponsered web pages and a google that only searches those three pages. |
Isn't that what capitalism really is? I am going to do an IMO now.
IMO capitalism and democracy , as our crack elected Pols define it, are synomonous. |
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| Cylinsier wrote: | | China is still communist in my opinion. Socialism is a range, not a state of either yes or no. China is more socialist than we are but still more capitalist than the USSR was or Cuba is. |
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Yeah, China is about as socialist as we, the U.S.A., are......
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| democracy (political changes). this definition too, Cy, while true as we both know, but to most has a more literal meaning and nothing to do with politics. |
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| busdriver wrote: | | IMO capitalism and democracy , as our crack elected Pols define it, are synomonous. |
Capitalism is an economic system. Democracy is a political system. They are not synonymous because they describe to related but independent functions of government.
You can have a Dictatorship or Monarchy that is still capitalist.
You can have a Democracy with socialist economic policies.
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| Cylinsier wrote: | | busdriver wrote: | | IMO capitalism and democracy , as our crack elected Pols define it, are synomonous. |
Capitalism is an economic system. Democracy is a political system. They are not synonymous because they describe to related but independent functions of government.
You can have a Dictatorship or Monarchy that is still capitalist.
You can have a Democracy with socialist economic policies. |
I am going to do another IMO.
IMO, they can't call it a dict. or a mon., must have "buzz" words (don't have to be true or factual) and Democr. works well as a buzz word ( like the color terror alerts of the recent past or WMD's.) |
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This conversation is rapidly approaching the point where we are no longer playing on the same gameboard.
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| Cylinsier wrote: | | This conversation is rapidly approaching the point where we are no longer playing on the same gameboard. |
Ok , as usual, you have to have all the fun, do you work for the DNC or Obama, really? |
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