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OndinitaAKALibchit
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| dazes wrote: | | Boo's birthday is April 16th 1986. It's funny my Dad was a dem. until GW and then dove into being a Cons. with both feet. Reregistered at the age of 72. I guess it doesn't matter how long it takes to get to the party as long as you get there. |
In my family, people get more liberal with age...LOL My 103 yr old grandma is super liberal!
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| dazes wrote: | | Do you feel let down Cy? Is the health care what you wanted to see. I think O should have reigned in his promises when he was campaigning. Maybe concentrated on a few things that he felt were wrong. No one could have accomplished all the things he promised, not even with the best case scenarios. As I said I wouldn't ever vote for him cause we aren't even in the same book let alone page. I am always nervous when people promise too many things. When someone comes in and tells you that they can do you job better and then tries and later realizes that it was much more involved that they thought. I always told you that I want him to do well, because we as Americans deserve that, but I wish he would bring a few more of his promises to fruition. Move on from health care reform if it doesn't pass. Frankly I am sick of hearing about it from both sides. |
No, I do not feel let down. To be let down would mean I had set my expectations too high. I was aware that many of Obama's promises where 4 or 8 year promises. He never said he would do it overnight; that's just a Fox News addendum. Seeing as how he's still got almost 3 years, we're going to have to be a lot further along before I feel let down.
As for health care reform, moving on is not an option. The current form of health insurance WILL bankrupt the country by 2020. That is an indisputable fact. Its like saying Noah should have moved on if he couldn't finish the Ark by three months ahead of the flood. Sure...if you want to drown.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:51 am Post subject: Re: OBAMA'S JOB PERFORMANCE??? |
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| dazes wrote: | | I am curious to know what you consider O's greatest accomplishment is and his biggest disappointment is as it relates to you. Do any of you who voted for him feeling let down or are you happy with what he has done. I didn't vote for him so I honestly don't have much of an opinion about about him at all. I am hoping to gain some insight without the usual name calling and defensive posturing that usually goes on, but I know that is going to be next to impossible. Let's give it a try though! |
I feel sorry for President Obama( or any president) today. Trying to correct all the wrongs in government or in the US today is like trying to sober up a drunk/druggie who has been in a stupor for 20+ years. |
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dick
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| dazes wrote: | | I think O should have reigned in his promises when he was campaigning. |
With your references to Reagan, this obviously isn't your first election cycle. When these guys campaign they all make a lot of promises. I don't think Obama made any more campaign promises than the last fifty Presidential candidates. I just think they are under more scrutiny due to the microscope the media is able to keep him under.
| Quote: | | Maybe concentrated on a few things that he felt were wrong. No one could have accomplished all the things he promised, not even with the best case scenarios. |
He got elected didn't he? That is the goal of a campaign, to win. Don't hate the candidates, hate the process. I know I do.
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| Cylinsier wrote: | | dazes wrote: | | Do you feel let down Cy? Is the health care what you wanted to see. I think O should have reigned in his promises when he was campaigning. Maybe concentrated on a few things that he felt were wrong. No one could have accomplished all the things he promised, not even with the best case scenarios. As I said I wouldn't ever vote for him cause we aren't even in the same book let alone page. I am always nervous when people promise too many things. When someone comes in and tells you that they can do you job better and then tries and later realizes that it was much more involved that they thought. I always told you that I want him to do well, because we as Americans deserve that, but I wish he would bring a few more of his promises to fruition. Move on from health care reform if it doesn't pass. Frankly I am sick of hearing about it from both sides. |
No, I do not feel let down. To be let down would mean I had set my expectations too high. I was aware that many of Obama's promises where 4 or 8 year promises. He never said he would do it overnight; that's just a Fox News addendum. Seeing as how he's still got almost 3 years, we're going to have to be a lot further along before I feel let down.
As for health care reform, moving on is not an option. The current form of health insurance WILL bankrupt the country by 2020. That is an indisputable fact. Its like saying Noah should have moved on if he couldn't finish the Ark by three months ahead of the flood. Sure...if you want to drown. |
This is not "REFORM", as it is an outright confiscation of "freedom". We've witnessed the nationalization of the auto and bank industry. We've seen the government take over education; and, hell, we've seen the government now tell us what to eat, nearly eliminate nicotine from our lives. And there are other "mandates" from DADDY GOBMINT....
Reform doesn't mean confiscation....
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| Cylinsier wrote: | | dazes wrote: | | Do you feel let down Cy? Is the health care what you wanted to see. I think O should have reigned in his promises when he was campaigning. Maybe concentrated on a few things that he felt were wrong. No one could have accomplished all the things he promised, not even with the best case scenarios. As I said I wouldn't ever vote for him cause we aren't even in the same book let alone page. I am always nervous when people promise too many things. When someone comes in and tells you that they can do you job better and then tries and later realizes that it was much more involved that they thought. I always told you that I want him to do well, because we as Americans deserve that, but I wish he would bring a few more of his promises to fruition. Move on from health care reform if it doesn't pass. Frankly I am sick of hearing about it from both sides. |
No, I do not feel let down. To be let down would mean I had set my expectations too high. I was aware that many of Obama's promises where 4 or 8 year promises. He never said he would do it overnight; that's just a Fox News addendum. Seeing as how he's still got almost 3 years, we're going to have to be a lot further along before I feel let down.
As for health care reform, moving on is not an option. The current form of health insurance WILL bankrupt the country by 2020. That is an indisputable fact. Its like saying Noah should have moved on if he couldn't finish the Ark by three months ahead of the flood. Sure...if you want to drown. |
huh??? try 2010 Cy. |
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dick
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The financial and auto companies that you speak of made a trade. They proved that they couldn't run their business, and needed daddy gobmint or else they would die. So their deal traded some decision making powers for daddy government's bailout. If you didn't take the bailout, daddy doesn't have his hands in your company. Once you pay daddy back, he'll leave you alone.
And I am still able to eat whatever the eff I want and smoke a cigar when ever I want. Chit, daddy gobmint tells me that I can't smoke a little weed and I do it any way. And I don't have the slightest problem finding it or purchasing it. Daddy should really be taking his piece.
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Phony, I thought you didn't want to pay other peoples' ways? If everyone drinks and smokes and doesn't get healthcare, every time they go to the hospital, you are paying their bill. If smoking and drinking are taxed higher, and those higher taxes help cover insurance premiums, then those people are finally showing personally responsibility by paying their own inflated health bills. This is what you want, isn't it?
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Dazes,How have you been dear?I think Osama,s greatest accomplishment was winning the Peace prize he surely did not deserve. His biggest screw up which no doubt will cost him big in 2012 is his no transparency,and his Chicago corrupt politics brought to Washington.And his continued of" I dont care what the voters want"by shoving Healthcare done our throats.. BY THE WAY, The O.R should hire you for you have asked a question the OR GUY does not have the brains to ask.. better than how do you eat meat, rare, well done.or I dont eat cows.  BB |
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Amphikalein
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i don't feel let down; i think my impressions of & expectations for his Presidency have so far been pretty realistic. He's behaving like the moderate i assumed he was, instead of the progressive i would rather have had. As Ondi chronicled previously, he's doing pretty well in meeting the promises he made during the campaign.
When it comes to disappointments, i'd say Gitmo's continued operation, the way the war has expanded in Afghanistan, the rhetoric regarding repeal of DADT without much visible result yet. The reported deal with big Pharma is disturbing. i would have liked to see more of a push for single payer in HCR, but like i said, he's a moderate, not a progressive. Overall i view him as doing an admirable job, being only 14 months into his Presidency.
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