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Brant · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:34 am Post subject:

Clearly, you're wrong, because there are more than three "libchits" on this forum alone who are working and paying taxes. Methinks you're full of something, and it ain't knowledge.
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Brant · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:22 am Post subject:

And you're an ... wait, I don't want to have to suspend myself. Wink

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Amphikalein · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:26 am Post subject:

Brant · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:44 am Post subject:

George, failure is one thing. Abject poverty is another. In a country as wealthy as ours, no one should go to bed hungry or not have basic preventative health care.
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I'm positive that the margin isn't that high... However, this conversation will eventually bring us full circle back to the discrepancy and gap between rank and file workers and executive compensation... and from there, we can go to social change in our consumer culture.

Since we've all talked about the former (income disparity between upper management and rank/file workers) why don't we start in on the second one?

Is it possible that the recent economic trials we've faced will re-orient America's consumer culture to place a higher value on quality, place of origin, and actual value as opposed to simply wanting as much cheap chit as possible?

We can use fast food as a focal point of discussion if you want... we spend a smaller percentage of our money on food than most other industrialized nations. We are fatter and in poorer health as a result. The poor eat a disproportionately high amount of fast food than the wealthy in our country because of policies that have driven down the price of crap food. We subsidize corn production to the point that if you make garbage food out of corn (soft drinks, corn-fed beef), you can sell it for a few bucks and give free refills and still make money.

With our current focus on the health of our nation (specifically, the price of bad health) and a distinct and noticeable trend toward not buying so much worthless crap as well as buying higher quality food products... are we moving back to an economy that produces more localized, higher quality products that cost more money, are more durable, and have a higher opportunity cost (if you buy this, then you can't buy that, that, and that over there) than in the past? And is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I think that it is a good thing.
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Brant · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject:

George, some people just aren't capable of doing anything more than what you refer to as "unskilled labor." And in many instances, they work harder than those who work in skilled positions. It would be nice if they could keep their heads above water while working those sorts of jobs, and then there might not be as many people who say, "I'd make more money being on welfare."
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OndinitaAKALibchit · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject:

I agree with E & Brant. Also, we need people to do the unskilled labor...That's another reason why they should get decent wages that can actually survive on.
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OndinitaAKALibchit · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject:

Phony---Did you forget the thread a while ago where you posted a link that showed less than 10% of the population lives off welfare? So most libchits do work...
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