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OndinitaAKALibchit
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 Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:37 am Post subject: Are old people killing the GOP? |
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It's so funny! I was just saying this to some conservatives on Facebook, just a few days ago...
The best part of the article, IMO:
| Quote: | Republicans have sold out at their peril: "Elderly voters...have come running back to the GOP in the last year," says Daniel Larison in American Conservative, because the Republicans have painted health reform as a threat to Medicare. Unfortunately, becoming the "defenders" of a gigantic entitlement program for the elderly -- "at the expense of our future" -- is not the way to endear the GOP to tomorrow's voters.
If you're going to have a solid voting block, this is the one to have: "You can win an awful lot of elections just by mobilizing the over-65 constituency," says Ross Douthat in The New York Times. They vote, "and there are more of them every day." But the GOP can't just abandon its commitment to limited government. The trick will be figuring out how to keep the elderly happy and rein in Medicare spending -- an economic necessity -- at the same time.
The elderly alone aren't enough to sustain the GOP: "In the long run," says Kevin Drum in Mother Jones, "this is a disaster not just for small-government conservatives but for the GOP as well." Republicans have driven away younger voters, "blacks, Hispanics, and virtually the entire Northeast." They'll find out soon enough that the "white South and the elderly" aren't enough to sustain a national political party.
To survive, the GOP must work with Democrats: "The future of conservatism depends upon restraining entitlement spending" on things like Social Security and Medicare, says Jonathan Chait in The New Republic. Trouble is, Republicans can't do it "without Democratic cover." But if they want that, they'll have to cooperate on health-care reform, say, or "a bipartisan deal to trim Social Security while raising taxes a bit -- the kind of deal Obama is all but begging for." |
http://www.theweek.com/article/index/106727/Are_old_people_killing_the_GOP
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Are old people killing the GOP? |
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| OndinitaAKALibchit wrote: | It's so funny! I was just saying this to some conservatives on Facebook, just a few days ago...
The best part of the article, IMO:
| Quote: | Republicans have sold out at their peril: "Elderly voters...have come running back to the GOP in the last year," says Daniel Larison in American Conservative, because the Republicans have painted health reform as a threat to Medicare. Unfortunately, becoming the "defenders" of a gigantic entitlement program for the elderly -- "at the expense of our future" -- is not the way to endear the GOP to tomorrow's voters.
If you're going to have a solid voting block, this is the one to have: "You can win an awful lot of elections just by mobilizing the over-65 constituency," says Ross Douthat in The New York Times. They vote, "and there are more of them every day." But the GOP can't just abandon its commitment to limited government. The trick will be figuring out how to keep the elderly happy and rein in Medicare spending -- an economic necessity -- at the same time.
The elderly alone aren't enough to sustain the GOP: "In the long run," says Kevin Drum in Mother Jones, "this is a disaster not just for small-government conservatives but for the GOP as well." Republicans have driven away younger voters, "blacks, Hispanics, and virtually the entire Northeast." They'll find out soon enough that the "white South and the elderly" aren't enough to sustain a national political party.
To survive, the GOP must work with Democrats: "The future of conservatism depends upon restraining entitlement spending" on things like Social Security and Medicare, says Jonathan Chait in The New Republic. Trouble is, Republicans can't do it "without Democratic cover." But if they want that, they'll have to cooperate on health-care reform, say, or "a bipartisan deal to trim Social Security while raising taxes a bit -- the kind of deal Obama is all but begging for." |
http://www.theweek.com/article/index/106727/Are_old_people_killing_the_GOP |
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Ana, what don't you understand about O'sama's attempt at turning MEDICARE, MEDICAID, VA into a TAX INCREASE......what is so difficult about understanding that??? Tell me that he doesn't plan on taking all the monies allocated to those programs, and using the funds as a TAX INCREASE.......
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You should go back to bed, get up in a couple of hours and try again. You're making no sense.
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The elderly alone aren't enough to sustain the GOP: "In the long run," says Kevin Drum in Mother Jones, "this is a disaster not just for small-government conservatives but for the GOP as well." Republicans have driven away younger voters, "blacks, Hispanics, and virtually the entire Northeast." They'll find out soon enough that the "white South and the elderly" aren't enough to sustain a national political party.
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Ana, who are you trying to bullchit....the GOP never had the blacks, hispanics, and the NORTHEAST.......lol, what a crock of chit....you certainly do lie a lot, but I find you very amusing even though you are full of typical LIBCHIT lies.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Are old people killing the GOP? |
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| phonyfeminazi wrote: | | OndinitaAKALibchit wrote: | | It's so funny! I _GOP |
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Ana, what don't you understand about O'sama's attempt at turning MEDICARE, MEDICAID, VA into a TAX INCREASE......what is so difficult about understanding that??? Tell me that he doesn't plan on taking all the monies allocated to those programs, and using the funds as a TAX INCREASE....... |
Phoney, for keyriced sake, tell me what we ever got that we didn't pay for? EVER? |
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For all Phony's ranting against entitlement mindsets our entitlement poster boy apparently believes that some people (him among them) should remain entitled to government handouts without anyone paying for them.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Are old people killing the GOP? |
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| busdriver wrote: | | phonyfeminazi wrote: | | OndinitaAKALibchit wrote: | | It's so funny! I _GOP |
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Ana, what don't you understand about O'sama's attempt at turning MEDICARE, MEDICAID, VA into a TAX INCREASE......what is so difficult about understanding that??? Tell me that he doesn't plan on taking all the monies allocated to those programs, and using the funds as a TAX INCREASE....... |
Phoney, for keyriced sake, tell me what we ever got that we didn't pay for? EVER? |
Bus, O'sama's doing the very same thing that another LIBCHIT president did.......when L.B.J. stole social security.
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Oh, brother, now he's back to that tired old claim again. i'd pay higher taxes myself if it meant that Phony got some new material.
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Phony---how am I a liar? I was quoting the article! You just don't like it bc it's the truth!
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| Amphikalein wrote: | | Oh, brother, now he's back to that tired old claim again. i'd pay higher taxes myself if it meant that Phony got some new material. |
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Hey, pardner, I don't give a chit.....it's you young ones who have to worry........you won't have chit when you go to collect on your social security and medicare....
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i'm young? Well, that's nearly made my morning!
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| Amphikalein wrote: | | i'm young? Well, that's nearly made my morning! |
I think you're young, Amphy. And compared to Phony, you're a teenager! 
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| Amphikalein wrote: | | i'm young? Well, that's nearly made my morning! |
Amphy, compared to me, you are young.
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compared to you he is Einstien too
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