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OR Guy Founder
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 409 Location: Washington, PA
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: Smoke Detectors |
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Do you have working smoke detectors in your home?
http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/localnews/01-12-2010-fatal-Waynesburg-fire _________________ Sincerely,
OR Guy
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amom Mod
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 2753 Location: You can't get here from there
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Yes! Several! (including one in the kitchen that we call the dinner bell) _________________ -amom
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Cylinsier Master
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 13229 Location: Oh shi-
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Brant Admin
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 5277 Location: Hopewell Township
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Three in my house. I need to check those batteries. _________________
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dick Journeyman
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Yes, they definitely work. How else would my wife know that dinner is done? _________________
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busdriver Journeyman
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 3497
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: |
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how about CO (carbon monoxide) detectors?
any know how CO travels , ?
low to ground
high to the ceilings etc.
or both.
I can not get a definite answer anywhere. |
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Cylinsier Master
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 13229 Location: Oh shi-
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:15 am Post subject: |
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The general consensus is that it is nearly the same density; place the detector close to the level of your head and it will detect the gas when it is most likely to be inhaled by you. If you're worried about breathing it in while sleeping, place it at the level of your mattress in your bedroom. _________________ The end is nigh! OR forums die APRIL 1. Don't lose contact! Join the forums at bogsource.com now! |
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busdriver Journeyman
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 3497
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Cylinsier wrote: | The general consensus is that it is nearly the same density; place the detector close to the level of your head and it will detect the gas when it is most likely to be inhaled by you. If you're worried about breathing it in while sleeping, place it at the level of your mattress in your bedroom. |
Thank you
I wondered because here in these townhouses some have those ventless gas fireplaces which are supposed to be CO free.
While searching I find those who sell them say they are safe, and others with no vested interest say they are not. |
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blackballed Professional
Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1510 Location: north to south
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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yes smoke detectors are mandatory where i live.BB |
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amom Mod
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 2753 Location: You can't get here from there
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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I understand that Carbon Monoxide is slightly lighter than air, which is why it will rise from your basement furnace into the above living areas of your home. We have the monitors mounted near the floor-level vents in our homes so the gas is caught sooner. In theory anyway. _________________ -amom
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Amphikalein Journeyman
Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Posts: 3177 Location: Corrales, NM
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, smoke detectors, CO2, and a couple of fire extinguishers with their servicing up to date. We're nothing if not safety conscious! _________________ "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." ~Martin Luther King Jr.
"May we, in our dealings with all the peoples of the earth, ever speak the truth and serve justice." ~Dwight D. Eisenhower
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freethinker Professional
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Bus, I had a big vent-less fireplace that kept giving my baby headaches, but not tripping the CO detector...I was told by someone that because it was a small area and tightly insulated, the fire was consuming all the oxygen....Don't know if that's true, but after I unhooked it, the headaches went away _________________ where-ever you get it - there you have it. - Anon. |
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busdriver Journeyman
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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freethinker wrote: | Hey Bus, I had a big vent-less fireplace that kept giving my baby headaches, but not tripping the CO detector...I was told by someone that because it was a small area and tightly insulated, the fire was consuming all the oxygen....Don't know if that's true, but after I unhooked it, the headaches went away |
I read that is how it works, consuming the 02, I also remember from high school science that everyting that burns emits CO in some form.
I guess the theory here is similiar to that of a gas kitchen stove, lot of people use those so??? Yet the hot water tank and the furnace MUST be vented????
I don't have one but there is one on either side of my unit. Sometime I get an oder of what seems like tail pipe fumes from time to time and neither my furnace or water tank is running. |
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Professor Apprentice
Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 358
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Carbon monoxide is roughly the same weight as air and when mixed with warm air will rise with that air.
CO at low concentrations can cause fatigue in healthy people and chest pain in people with heart disease. At higher concentrations, impaired vision and coordination; headaches; dizziness; confusion; nausea. It can also cause flu-like symptoms that clear up after leaving home and is fatal at very high concentrations. Acute effects are due to the formation of carboxyhemoglobin in the blood, which inhibits oxygen intake. At moderate concentrations, angina, impaired vision, and reduced brain function may result. At higher concentrations, CO exposure can be fatal.
Do you have a GAS clothes dryer in your home? Did you know that your GAS dryer uses the same vent pipe to exhaust CO and other combustion gases as it does the lint and a plugged vent means these dangerous gases will be released into your home! _________________
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Professor Apprentice
Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 358
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:19 am Post subject: |
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You should also know that the same property that allows CO to rise on warm air, allows it to fall with cold air and if your are working in a cold area where are there combustion burning appliances nearby, the low areas can quickly fill with CO. Those in industry and construction should be particularly aware of this when working in permit required confined spaces. _________________
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