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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:25 am    Post subject: Smoke Detectors Reply with quote

Do you have working smoke detectors in your home?

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/localnews/01-12-2010-fatal-Waynesburg-fire
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! Several! (including one in the kitchen that we call the dinner bell)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have 3.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three in my house. I need to check those batteries.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they definitely work. How else would my wife know that dinner is done?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about CO (carbon monoxide) detectors?

any know how CO travels , ?
low to ground
high to the ceilings etc.
or both.

I can not get a definite answer anywhere.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The general consensus is that it is nearly the same density; place the detector close to the level of your head and it will detect the gas when it is most likely to be inhaled by you. If you're worried about breathing it in while sleeping, place it at the level of your mattress in your bedroom.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cylinsier wrote:
The general consensus is that it is nearly the same density; place the detector close to the level of your head and it will detect the gas when it is most likely to be inhaled by you. If you're worried about breathing it in while sleeping, place it at the level of your mattress in your bedroom.


Thank you

I wondered because here in these townhouses some have those ventless gas fireplaces which are supposed to be CO free.

While searching I find those who sell them say they are safe, and others with no vested interest say they are not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes smoke detectors are mandatory where i live.BB
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that Carbon Monoxide is slightly lighter than air, which is why it will rise from your basement furnace into the above living areas of your home. We have the monitors mounted near the floor-level vents in our homes so the gas is caught sooner. In theory anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, smoke detectors, CO2, and a couple of fire extinguishers with their servicing up to date. We're nothing if not safety conscious!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bus, I had a big vent-less fireplace that kept giving my baby headaches, but not tripping the CO detector...I was told by someone that because it was a small area and tightly insulated, the fire was consuming all the oxygen....Don't know if that's true, but after I unhooked it, the headaches went away
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freethinker wrote:
Hey Bus, I had a big vent-less fireplace that kept giving my baby headaches, but not tripping the CO detector...I was told by someone that because it was a small area and tightly insulated, the fire was consuming all the oxygen....Don't know if that's true, but after I unhooked it, the headaches went away


I read that is how it works, consuming the 02, I also remember from high school science that everyting that burns emits CO in some form.

I guess the theory here is similiar to that of a gas kitchen stove, lot of people use those so??? Yet the hot water tank and the furnace MUST be vented????

I don't have one but there is one on either side of my unit. Sometime I get an oder of what seems like tail pipe fumes from time to time and neither my furnace or water tank is running.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon monoxide is roughly the same weight as air and when mixed with warm air will rise with that air.

CO at low concentrations can cause fatigue in healthy people and chest pain in people with heart disease. At higher concentrations, impaired vision and coordination; headaches; dizziness; confusion; nausea. It can also cause flu-like symptoms that clear up after leaving home and is fatal at very high concentrations. Acute effects are due to the formation of carboxyhemoglobin in the blood, which inhibits oxygen intake. At moderate concentrations, angina, impaired vision, and reduced brain function may result. At higher concentrations, CO exposure can be fatal.

Do you have a GAS clothes dryer in your home? Did you know that your GAS dryer uses the same vent pipe to exhaust CO and other combustion gases as it does the lint and a plugged vent means these dangerous gases will be released into your home!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should also know that the same property that allows CO to rise on warm air, allows it to fall with cold air and if your are working in a cold area where are there combustion burning appliances nearby, the low areas can quickly fill with CO. Those in industry and construction should be particularly aware of this when working in permit required confined spaces.
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