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OR Guy · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: PFA's

Experts say protection-from-abuse orders are effective in addressing spousal abuse. Do you agree?

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/localnews/11-24-2009-Baker-homicide-follo
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dick · Journeyman Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 3134

dick · Journeyman Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 3134

I can't edit my comment, but I would like to retract that last part about someone who punches being non-lethal. They are just as likely to strangle their spouse as the crazy guy with a knife. I hope he gets raped in prison before he is sentenced to death. Mostly because he did this in front of his son.
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amom · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:47 am Post subject:

In some cases a PFA makes the abuser more violent and more intent on harming the victim, and oftentimes they succeed (as in this instance). In others, someone files a PFA just to wave it in the defendent's face if things don't go as they planned. I imagine that the PFA's filed in between these two extremes work, with the person staying away under threat of arrest. But, like the woman said, they are not a bullet proof vest.
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SSSS · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:56 am Post subject:

They are not effective in all cases because they are just a piece of paper and not a physical barrier. Someone who is predisposed to act criminally sees no need to heed words on a paper. However it does give police more "teeth" in the event of a recurrance of the violence.
Having said that, most domestic arrests are a huge waste of police and court time because in a large majority of cases by the time the court date rolls around they have kissed and made up, she still oves him, he promises to not do it again and the charges get dropped. It is a truly sad cycle.
Remember the local "businessman" who was arrested 22 times for domestic violence and never went to court?
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ellipses · Mod Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 9218 Location: WashPa!

Ah yes... THAT guy...

If I recall correctly, that whole family was tore up from the floor up
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Cylinsier · Master Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 13229 Location: Oh shi-

I always liked the scene in LA Confidential where Russell Crowe is sitting outside the house where the dude is beating his wife. He rolls in, remodels the dude's face and then drags him outside and cuffs him to his own front stair rail and just leaves him there. He allegedly has a squad car come pick him up later...much later.
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blackballed · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:25 am Post subject:

did we not have a local judge who was served a restraining order for abusing his wife?? and i agree with everything said..BB

SSSS · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject:

Yes we did several years ago.
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freethinker · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject:

The only effective protection from abuse for a battered woman is a father or a brother or a son who carries with him a light conscience and a loaded shotgun
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dick · Journeyman Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 3134

I expect to see a string of unrelated shotgun murders in tomorrows paper.
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freethinker · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject:

think of all the money we could save....no incarceration costs, no free health care for the abusers....no court costs...I'd build the coffins for free...
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SSSS · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject:

I will bring the nails freethinker. There is no lower form of life than a man who beats a woman or a child.
I used to tell some of them-"Next time you get an over powering urge to hit someone call ME! I will give you a better fight than she does!"
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freethinker · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:04 am Post subject:

My mother was beaten in front of me and i did nothing but cower in fear...
Many years later, my sister was beaten by her boyfriend....
I showed up in his bedroom at 5 am with a fishing net and battery acid.....
fortunately, no-one was hurt that day, and no-one was ever hurt again.
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Brant · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:27 am Post subject:

Very creative, Free. I applaud you.
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