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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Nov 2 letter to editor on PA health care Reply with quote

I have many questions concerning todays letter to the editor on PA's incomprehensible health care. Where is the father of the two kids? Why didn't mom think about these issue BEFORE she hd two kids? this letter is typical "progressive" crap.... blame everyone else for your problems, be a victim. How did mom injure her knee? If at work the workers comp will cover the surgery and pay wages as well. If at someones elses property, will the homeowners insurance cover the injury? Why can't her parents ( the letter writer was her mom) help?

The writer need to wake up and smell the deficit. The US is broke and PA is having a very hard time with its budget and no one wants a tax increase. Welfare will, I hope soon be a memory or at least have a hard time line of five years and done. People will need to be responsible for their own well being.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unrealistic, but impassioned. People wouldn't no what to do with themselves if we really eliminated all forms of welfare. Society would fall apart.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cylinsier wrote:
Unrealistic, but impassioned. People wouldn't no what to do with themselves if we really eliminated all forms of welfare. Society would fall apart.

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I do not want to eliminate welfare but limit it to x years in a lifetime. I am angry at the letter writers blaming us (tax payers) for her daughters )and son-in laws?) lack of forthought.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was mostly responding to the statement, "people need to be responsible for their own well-being." It is imperative that you understand that there are people who, through no fault of their own and despite endless amounts of work and effort, cannot get by on their own. There is perhaps an interesting (or maybe disturbing) argument to be made for allowing those people to wither away, but if you stand by the belief that everyone should be free to be happy and healthy, then you must reconcile that with your understanding of welfare programs; some people simply do not have access to those freedoms without a helping hand.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here are a few questions for you, george...
Do you have children, george...?
What were you thinking BEFORE you had children, george...?
Did you plan for ALL possible contingencies, george...?
Have you ever been laid-off, downsized or fired without reason, george..?
...divorced..? injured..? assaulted..? abandoned..?..
Has anything bad ever happened to you, george..
and there was absolutely no-one there to help you..?
Have you honestly never in your life been forced to ask for help, george.?
Your over-riding concern for the financial security of the entire
United States, and your novel idea of keeping taxes low, are both
commendable. You should address a letter to your representative..
In the meantime, this woman needs medical assistance...
I pray you are never in the unplanned situation that this grandmother
is now in....but if by chance you are, and find yourself forced to beg
for help, I hope you are not told to "wake up and smell the deficit."
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

freethinker wrote:
And here are a few questions for you, george...
Do you have children, george...?
What were you thinking BEFORE you had children, george...?
Did you plan for ALL possible contingencies, george...?
Have you ever been laid-off, downsized or fired without reason, george..?
...divorced..? injured..? assaulted..? abandoned..?..
Has anything bad ever happened to you, george..
and there was absolutely no-one there to help you..?
Have you honestly never in your life been forced to ask for help, george.?
Your over-riding concern for the financial security of the entire
United States, and your novel idea of keeping taxes low, are both
commendable. You should address a letter to your representative..
In the meantime, this woman needs medical assistance...
I pray you are never in the unplanned situation that this grandmother
is now in....but if by chance you are, and find yourself forced to beg
for help, I hope you are not told to "wake up and smell the deficit."

Yes I have 3 step childern. I thought before I married but they were all over 18 by then and on their own. If necessary I would and have helped all of them as needed. I did have polio at two and was turned away by childrens hospital in Pittsburgh even though my family had insurance. I did get physical therapy and made an excellent recovery, no thanks to childerns hospital in 1949.

I never needed help after I graduated form college that was paid for my my and my fathers and mothers work, no handouts.


Someone need to find her husband and make him pony up the cost, or her parents. She is not my child.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

george wrote:
I never needed help after I graduated form college that was paid for my my and my fathers and mothers work, no handouts.


Not to undercut your sense of accomplishment, but you were lucky.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

George, you're not being logical...
Why should the father or ex-husband be forced to pay for this
medical emergency that is needed by the mother..?
And you admit you received help from physical therapy along
with the good fortune of intact parents who could afford tuition..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

freethinker wrote:
George, you're not being logical...
Why should the father or ex-husband be forced to pay for this
medical emergency that is needed by the mother..?
And you admit you received help from physical therapy along
with the good fortune of intact parents who could afford tuition..


The letter did not say if the women was married. If so the husband should pay ( for better or worse, richer or poorer).
Parents should be there when children of any age need help, thats their job. A knee injury may be painful but is not a medical emergency. Too many people expect someone else to pay for everything.

The physical therapy was provide by my mother.

The last two years of my education was paid for by me. I quit school for a two years because I felt I was wasting my parents money. I worked, paid my parents room and board and saved the rest for two years.

Sometime syou have to make your own way and your own luck. I have much to be thankful for and all I had to do was get off my a## every day and go to work and do a good job. That required putting in a lot of free hours ( I was salaried so no OT pay).
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, george, for that honest declaration of your hard-work and
self-reliance...I commend your fortitude, and recognize your disgust
at those who manage to abuse the kindness of fellow taxpayers..
You have every right to be proud of yourself...But somewhere inside
that pride must lie a little spark of understanding, a smoldering little
piece of your conscience, that can remind you that somehow,
somewhere, an honest hard-working fellow is going to fall down and
hurt their knee, and need our help...Yeah, they can go to the emergency room, and you will pay for it vicariously through higher
insurance rates...or we can work to advance universal health care for
all ...I'd write more, but I gotta go work the night shift.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freethinker wrote:
And here are a few questions for you, george...
Do you have children, george...?
What were you thinking BEFORE you had children, george...?
Did you plan for ALL possible contingencies, george...?
Have you ever been laid-off, downsized or fired without reason, george..?
...divorced..? injured..? assaulted..? abandoned..?..
Has anything bad ever happened to you, george..
and there was absolutely no-one there to help you..?
Have you honestly never in your life been forced to ask for help, george.?
Your over-riding concern for the financial security of the entire
United States, and your novel idea of keeping taxes low, are both
commendable. You should address a letter to your representative..
In the meantime, this woman needs medical assistance...
I pray you are never in the unplanned situation that this grandmother
is now in....but if by chance you are, and find yourself forced to beg
for help, I hope you are not told to "wake up and smell the deficit."


free....Yes, we planned on children...

free....Yes, I bought insurance to conver all possible contingencies.

free....Yes, I've been laid off, and lost a job via a "closedown"...

free.... Yes, I've been divorced, and been hospitalized....

free....Yes, I've been a victim of robbery, been in a car accident.

free....Yes, I've asked for help.....THAT'S WHAT FAMILY IS ALL ABOUT....

DADDY GOBMINT AIN'T FAMILY.....AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE FAMILY.

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