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OndinitaAKALibchit
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| Brant wrote: | | Phony, I'm with you on this payment to seniors. Many of the rest of us have suffered cutbacks and had to make do. The senior citizens should do the same. We can't just keep adding on spending initiatives as if we're putting bulbs on a Christmas tree. |
The thing is that Phony is not complaining about the payment to seniors...He seems to be okay with that. He's complaining about the fine on the health care bill for those that don't buy insurance, which has nothing to do with this!
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Exactly. If the COLA is really to account for an increase in the cost of living, then it should only increase by the amount that COL increased.
I would like to see how the metric works that accounts for "Cost of living" for a group that is primarily elderly and/or disabled, though... Is their cost of living accounted for differently than mine? I know there are some issues with the figuring of the CPI, but I don't really know how COLA is calculated...
Also, I started writing this response almost a half hour ago and then got a phone call... so this could have nothing to do with the intervening comments
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BB-in case you had not noticed, first driving is NOT a right, and second, you cannot drive without insurance.
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| Brant wrote: | And neither group should be getting a bonus like this. The cost of living did not go up. We cannot keep throwing money at every perceived inequity in society. I'm all for universal, single-payer health care, and but I didn't complain too much about
the bailouts because the alternatives were so distasteful, enough is enough. |
Food and energy is not considered when factoring in COLA, so when gas went from 1.31 to 4.25, no COLA, ( but when it went from $4.25 to $1.99 SOB's said we did not need any COLA because energy prices got lower) and food prices went from 2 to 100% and more, that was not a COLA bump for seniors or anyone else( does any one still get COL from their employers?)
but I didn't complain too much about
the bailouts because the alternatives were so distasteful
What were those alternatives, Brant?
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The collapse of the financial sector and the demise of two-thirds of the domestic auto industry.
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busdriver
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| Brant wrote: | | The collapse of the financial sector and the demise of two-thirds of the domestic auto industry. |
Didn't that happen anyhow? |
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Uh, no.
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busdriver
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Bailout helps fuel new era of Wall Street wealth
Efforts to save financial system helped titans make fortunes in fresh ways.
Bail out was just a "reload" of fresh money, Brant. These people are not Americans, just some bad greedy people. Ship will hit the sand this next time when they run out of bailout.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33354321/ns/business-the_new_york_times
NEW YORK – Get over it, America. Wall Street bankers make too much money. The latest example: Goldman Sachs says it has set aside $16.7 billion so far this year for compensation — or about $530,000 per employee. Not bad for a company that a year ago received $10 billion in federal money as well as $12.9 billion from the government's bailout of American International Group Inc. |
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