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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:08 am    Post subject: Beck is 'out and out nuts,' Carville says Reply with quote

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/05/beck-is-out-and-out-nuts-carville-says-2/

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WASHINGTON (CNN) – Fox News anchor and conservative commentator Glenn Beck was taking incoming fire Sunday from both ends of the political spectrum, but especially from Democratic strategist James Carville.

"I think he's nuts, OK?," the outspoken Democrat said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union,"

"Just out-and-out nuts. And I also think that he's a blatant hypocrite," Carville said. "Here's somebody that sits on his show … weeping about how much he loves America and … and then he's absolutely giddy when his country doesn't get the Olympics. And this is — I'll tell you another thing about Glenn Beck. He wouldn't know the difference between a football, a bat and a hockey court. This guy is not — he's just all — he's just all weeping."

Carville was reacting to earlier comments Sunday on Fox News, where Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina made it clear that he was not a fan of Beck.

"[H]e doesn't represent the Republican Party," Graham said of Beck, "When a person says he represents conservatism and that the country is better off with Barack Obama than John McCain, that sort of ends the debate for me as to how much more I'm going to listen."

"So he has a right to say what he wants to say. In my view, it's not — it's not the kind of political analysis that I buy into," Graham said.

Republican strategist Mary Matalin disagreed with Graham and with Carville, who is her husband.

"[Beck] has two best-sellers," Matalin told CNN Chief National Correspondent John King, "This has never happened before. Two No. 1 best-sellers in hard-cover and paperback, non-fiction. All right. Somebody out there is listening [to] what Glenn Beck says. I know he [Carville] doesn't listen and Lindsey doesn't listen."

"[Beck] doesn't affiliate with either party, or any party," Matalin also observed Sunday, "but he has tapped into this mainstream of America who feels otherwise not listened to."

Before joining Fox News, Beck anchored a show on CNN Headline News, a sister network to CNN.

Carville and Matalin are both CNN political contributors.


I take issue with this part:

"but he has tapped into this mainstream of America who feels otherwise not listened to."

First, no he hasn't. I know no liberals who listen to him and I know tons of conservatives, including many outspoken conservative speakers and politicians, who distance themselves from him. If he was in the mainstream, sponsors wouldn't be so nonchalant about fleeing from him like rats from a sinking ship and he wouldn't have to make up false numbers for his tea party friends' DC march.

Second, any group that finds a sense of understanding in Beck's words probably deserves to not be listened to.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many book sales does it take to get to #1?

Let's say that 50% of his audience adores him enough to buy his book... take the number of book sales needed for #1 and multiply that by 2.

Now, divide that number by 300,000,000

Yeah, he's tapped into something, now hasn't he? Are we even at 1% of the population buying his BS?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming she means his books are NY Times best sellers, this is what wikipedia says:

"The exact methodology used in creating the list is classified as a trade secret."

The reference is to this:

http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0226144720&id=LAfZ-Y13obwC&pg=PA364&lpg=PA364&ots=XQAwzfMECJ&dq=%22New+York+Times+Best+Seller+list%22&sig=xSluZ32O22b7mQFid3CISEltXDU#v=onepage&q=%22New%20York%20Times%20Best%20Seller%20list%22&f=false

That link suggests that the list is essentially manufactured. Certain book stores' sales are weighed heavily in determining best seller status. That's the best guess anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, last year's best selling album was Lil Wayne's "The Carter III"... selling 2.88 million copies.

Let's say Glenn Beck sells 5 times that many copies of his book... That would be 14.4 million... This would be a RETARDED HIGH number... consider that Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol (sequel to the Da Vinci Code) has only sold about 3 million copies so far...

That would be 4.8% of the population buying his book...

That would be about 5 times his television audience... That would be 1.5 times his radio audience... Basically, that would be more people buying his book than actually listen to or watch him (unlikely)...

And even that... 4.8% is one fifth of the percentage of the population that voted for Ross Perot in 1992.

1/5 of Ross Perot. On Glenn Beck's BEST day, he's one fifth of Ross Perot
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ellipses wrote:
How many book sales does it take to get to #1?

Let's say that 50% of his audience adores him enough to buy his book... take the number of book sales needed for #1 and multiply that by 2.

Now, divide that number by 300,000,000

Yeah, he's tapped into something, now hasn't he? Are we even at 1% of the population buying his BS?


Some books, especially a polititions, are no doubt bought en mass,by a "a single supporter".
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why are you so obsessed with beck?yes he is a sweetheart..just like maddow,countdown man,mr ed and so on.BB
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say we are obsessed. CNN published the article, I just linked to it because I like Carville a lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's in the news a lot... so we talk about him.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ellipses wrote:
He's in the news a lot... so we talk about him.


Help me to understand this:

Beck gets millions of listeners, on FOX, a successful news media...

NBC is going bankrupt.....

Now, here is where I need help......why is NBC going bankrupt, and FOX NEWS CHANNEL is prospering?????

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, you must have been looking for the "NBC vs. Fox" thread. This is the "James Carville says Glenn Beck is a tool" thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cylinsier wrote:
I'm sorry, you must have been looking for the "NBC vs. Fox" thread. This is the "James Carville says Glenn Beck is a tool" thread.



BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......

Abomb!......You never cease to amaze me......how freaking stupid can you get, and a man of supposedly high intellect........you surely can come up with some stupidity...

YOU FEAKING LIBCHITS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AUDIENCES, TALK SHOWS, NEWS MEDIA, AND NOW YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO TELL ME THAT N.B.C. AND FOX ARE NEW PART OF THE NEWS MEDIA?????????

freaking stupid....freaking dumb.....freaking biased.......freaking phony..

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

........what are you talking about? Seriously.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cylinsier wrote:
........what are you talking about? Seriously.


I'm talking about how stupid you can get when you are getting your azz kicked....

Not too difficult to see that, is it???

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I'm really certain I'm not alone here. I have no idea what you are talking about and I imagine others will chime in in agreement.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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YOU FEAKING LIBCHITS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AUDIENCES, TALK SHOWS, NEWS MEDIA, AND NOW YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO TELL ME THAT N.B.C. AND FOX ARE NEW PART OF THE NEWS MEDIA?????????


I know what most of the words mean, individually... but when they get put together in this particular order, all I hear is a cat scratching a basket
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