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blackballed · Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:47 am Post subject:

THE ACTUAL ROLE of obama,s czars is to try and enact his CHANGE,these czars answer to him only,so they are not assistants..if you ask 10 people if they believe EVERYTHING federal employees say you might come up with 3 out of ten,C,E AND BRANT..BB

Brant · Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:54 am Post subject:

No one's asking you to believe everything said by every government employee, just the obviously true things said by someone we know to be a reliable source of information.
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ellipses · Mod Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 9218 Location: WashPa!

You are getting closer...

Now, HOW will these people "enact change?"

What power do they have? What legislation has been written by one of these czars? How have they affected your daily life? Did you have that pee stain on the front of your pants over the 31 "czars" in the bush administration or the 46 appointees to those czarist positions?

Remember... specifics. What do they do, how do they do it, and why is it bad?
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busdriver · Journeyman Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 3497

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bb, duck, the LIBCHITS will be after your azz.....how can you insult the "messiah's" czars who help him guide the course we take in the everyday running of the GOBMINT?????[/b][/quote]

Phony, some one sent me this so I copied and pasted it for you. I checked this guy out and he is real

Dr. Charles Krauthammer

Dr. Krauthammer is an M.D. and a lawyer and is
paralyzed from the neck down. A friend went to hear Charles Krauthammer. He
listened with 25 others in a closed room. What he says here, is NOT 2nd-hand
but 1st. The ramifications are staggering for us, our children and their
children.

Last Monday was a profound evening, Dr Charles Krauthammer spoke to the
Center for the American Experiment. He is a brilliant intellectual, seasoned
& articulate. He is forthright and careful in his analysis, and never
resorts to emotions or personal insults. He is NOT a fear monger nor an
extremist in his comments and views . He is a fiscal conservative, and has
received a Pulitzer Prize for writing. He writes weekly for the Washington Post.

The entire room was held spellbound during his talk. I have summarized his
comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically and
internationally. Even 2 Dems at my table agreed with everything he said! If you
feel like forwarding this to those who are open minded and have not drunk the
Kool-Aid, feel free.

Summary of his comments:

1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be
underestimated. He is a cool customer who doesn't show his emotions. It's
very hard to know what's behind the mask.The taking down of the Clinton
dynasty was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons still do not understand
what hit them. Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.

2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton . He has a
way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing with your position,
while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what
he DOES!

3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to
make something out of himself, but rather to change everything, including
dismantling capitalism. He can't be straightforward on his ambitions, as the
public would not go along.

He has a heavy hand, and wants to level the playing field with income
redistribution and punishment to the achievers of society. He would like to
model the USA to Great Britain or Canada .

4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, and
NATIONAL HEALTHCARE by the Federal government. He doesn't care about the auto
or financial services industries, but got them as an early bonus. The cap
and trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth. Paying for FREE
college education is his goal. Most scary is his healthcare program, because
if you make it FREE and add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type
single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof. The only way to control costs
is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada . God forbid!

5. He has surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types. No one
around him has ever even run a candy store. But they are going to try and
run the auto, financial, banking and other industries. This obviously can't
work in the long run. Obama is not a socialist; rather he's a far-left
secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate,
but will govern from the hard left. Again, watch what he does, not what he
says.

6. Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the United States ,
but more as a ruler over the world. He sees himself above it all, trying to
orchestrate & coordinate various countries and their agendas. He sees moral
equivalency in all cultures. His apology tour in Germany and England was a
prime example of how he sees America , as an imperialist nation that has
been arrogant, rather than a great noble nation that has at times made
errors. This is the first President ever who has chastised our allies and
appeased our enemies!

7. He is now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (and pain) will
not come due until after he is reelected in 2012. He would like to blame
all problems on Bush from the past, and hopefully his successor in the
future. He has a huge ego, and Dr. Krauthammer believes he is a narcissist.

8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong.
Republicans are pining for another Reagan, but there will never be another
like him. Krauthammer believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty & Bobby Jindahl
(except for his terrible speech in February) are the future of the party.
Newt Gingrich is brilliant, but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere and
intelligent, but needs to really be seriously boning up on facts and info if she
is to be a serious candidate in the future. We need to return to the party
of lower taxes, smaller government, personal responsibility, strong
national defense, and state's rights.

9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous. We are
spending trillions that we don't have. This could lead to hyperinflation,
depression or worse. No country has ever spent themselves into prosperity.
The media is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a pass because they love their
agenda. But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the
huge bailouts didn't work, nor will the stimulus package.These were
trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama's allies, unions and the Congress to placate the
left, so he can get support for #4 above.

10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed,
fear and panic swept in, we had an unpopular President, and the war was
grinding on indefinitely without a clear outcome. The people are in pain, and
the mantra of change caused people to act emotionally. Any Dem would have
won this election; it was surprising it was as close as it was.

11 In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be
swept back into power. If it's under 8%, the Dems continue to roll. If it's
between 8-10%, it will be a dogfight. It will all be about the economy. I
hope this gets you really thinking about what's
happening in Washington and Congress. There is a left-wing revolution
going on, according to Krauthammer, and he encourages us to keep the faith and
join the loyal resistance. The work will be hard, but we're right on most
issues and can reclaim our country, before it's far too late.

Cylinsier · Master Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 13229 Location: Oh shi-

This essay is rife with inaccuracies and propaganda. It seems this guy is a regular Fox News contributor and a known conservative pundit. Krauthammer is also in favor of much higher taxes on energy, pro-abortion and a supporter of emryonic stem-cell research. He's apparently a very smart and unpredictable columnist since his views sway back from far left to far right without warning. That's why I find it unlikely that he had anything to do with this so-called first hand speech. The speech is inane and repeats several boring and now cliched talking points of the right, something I doubt he would do. Nevertheless, in response to this diatribe, I take offense at the logical fallacies and coarse assumptions made in several places.

First, that Obama is a power-hungry dictator: a power-hungry dictator would have been politically involved from a young age and had quite a bit of political service before attaining the Presidency. Is the right's main argument against Obama not that he has too little experience? Does that not indicate a less-than-obsessive view towards having power over others?

Second, that functioning more like Canada or the UK in some ways would be the worst possible scenario: why?

Third, the same tired argument about rationing health care: it is rationed now.

Fourth, that Obama has surrounded himself with people with no leadership experience: this is just factually incorrect.

Fifth, that Obama views himself as the ruler of the world and is a narcissist: whoever said this, be it Krauthammer or the anonymous writer claiming to have heard him, is not a psychoanalyst, has not met Obama personally, and is otherwise not qualified to level what is nothing more than irresponsible hearsay and conjecture at Obama. Furthermore, if I can briefly share my opinion on the matter, most people who accuse others of being narcissists are themselves very narcissistic.
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dick · Journeyman Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 3134

Its fun to live in a world where everything on the internet, tv, and radio are taken as gospel.

ellipses · Mod Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 9218 Location: WashPa!

Did you hear about how glenn beck raped and killed that girl back in the early 90's?
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ellipses · Mod Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 9218 Location: WashPa!

That stung... Sad

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ellipses · Mod Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 9218 Location: WashPa!

I know... I just always thought of myself as christlike in my perfection
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SSSS · Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject:

While Obama does seem to have more Czars that the Romanovs, my concern is....how much do they get paid?
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ellipses · Mod Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 9218 Location: WashPa!

As of now, he has 1 more than George W Bush had...

I will check on the pay
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